This branch of the Austrian Hesch family is descended from Johann Hesch and his wife Marya (Schlinz) Hesch, who came to America from Oberschlagles, Bohemia with three sons: Paul, Mathias, and Anton. +++Johann & Marya settled in Buffalo County, Wisconsin but moved to Pierz, Mn in about 1885. .+++Mathias settled in Waumandee, Wisconsin and moved to Pierz in 1911. +++Anton never married but farmed with his dad in Agram Township, where he died in 1911.+++And Paul, my great grandfather, settled five miles away, in Buckman, Minnesota. He died there in 1900.

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Sunday, May 25, 2014

Wanted : MISCHKE DNA

Frank Mischke c 1925
This is neat: We received a note from Joy yesterday concerning her links to the Mischke family.  Remember, she sent pictures and information last November...and she's looking for the assistance of a triple M: a Male Minnesota Mischke descendant to take a DNA test:
"I wanted to let you know that one of the Mischke descendants (my mother's 1st cousin Jim Mischke) has agreed to do his paternal line "Y-DNA" testing at FTdna (FamilyTreeDNA).  Do you know if anyone else from the Minnesota Mischke line have done any DNA testing?  If so, it would be interesting to compare and see if they are in the same Haplogroup.  You might put out the word on your blog, and find out if there are any volunteers for the Y-dna test.  I would be willing to sponsor it".
So there ya go!  If you happen to google MISCHKE and end up here on HH, and you're a Mischke guy (or know one) who'd want to scrape a few cheek cells,  email me and I'll contact Joy, ok?
(marlysky at gmail dot com)   Thanks, Joy!


Evidently comments aren't working right now, but here's what Joy would have added ☺ :

Thanks Marlys!  Hopefully someone will be interested in doing the Y-dna test for a comparison of the two Mischke lines.  We all should have descended from George Miszke and Catharina Kubin, ca1700's, Ellguth-Tillowitz, Kr. Falkenberg, Schlesien.  Jim Mischke was very excited about the idea, especially since there are some family legends that might be proved - or disproved - by the test results.  Warm regards from cousin Joy

Three months later, an email from Joy--August, 2014:
"Hi Marlys,

I'm not sure if you've seen my update posted in your blog [as a comment, below] about the DNA test of my Mischke cousin.  The Y-dna results only ruled out that we do not have a paternal line to the Baron at Niederrathen (which was a family myth), but the "Autosomal Test" revealed more.  It turns out that a connection was found between my cousin, Jim Mischke, and Timothy Michael Schmolke as "4th to 5th cousins".  Timothy descends from Jacob Schmolke and his wife, Catharina Mischke.  Their son Johann married Hedwig Peschel, and that is Timothy's line - from Minnesota. 

This would also mean that we are related to your line via Joseph Mischke (brother of Catherina Mischke) who was married to Maria Otremba, and many many more from the MN clan.

So a family mystery solved thru DNA technology!!  YAY!!"

Isn't it COOL that DNA testing is getting more specific and useful?  Larry and I  just assumed that any Otremba in the world has to be descended from Polish Otrembas--the Hawaiian branch, the Brazilian bunch and even the 'Irish' O'Trembas (written that way in an early census ☺)--but now there's genetic proof, including the lines we're most concerned with, here in Minnesota. What a deal ☺
THANKS, Joy! 

2 comments:

  1. Update: My cousin's DNA results came back with a distant connection to Catharina Mischke, wife of Jacob Schmolke. Their great-great-grandson had his DNA tested, and matches as a 4th to 5th cousin.

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  2. I should also mention that the "Mischke" paternal line is part of the Y-DNA Haplogroup: G-M201. This a rare group in Europe, with only 4% in Germany, so we are rather unique. See the migration out of Africa and the Middle East (30,000 years ago) in the graph here http://dnaproject.lannin.org/haplogroups/haplogroup-g/ . Basically, we come from Neolithic farmers and herders who migrated from Anatolia (present day Turkey) to Europe between 9,000 and 6,000 years ago. Migrants from the eastern Mediterranean would have brought with them sheep and goats, which were domesticated south of the Caucasus about 12,000 years ago. This would explain why haplogroup G is more common in mountainous areas, be it in Europe or in Asia.

    Based on my cousin's test, all Mischkes from the Tillowitz/Falkenberg are part of this group, G-M201 (subclade L-497) going back thousands of years. The "Y" chromosome is inherited by men only from their father, and his father, and so on. It does not mutate as quickly as other genes, so that is why we can trace our surname origins to prehistoric times. It is all very complicated and confusing, so anyone interested in further information may contact me at jgrude@charter.net. Cousin Joy

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