This branch of the Austrian Hesch family is descended from Johann Hesch and his wife Marya (Schlinz) Hesch, who came to America from Oberschlagles, Bohemia with three sons: Paul, Mathias, and Anton. +++Johann & Marya settled in Buffalo County, Wisconsin but moved to Pierz, Mn in about 1885. .+++Mathias settled in Waumandee, Wisconsin and moved to Pierz in 1911. +++Anton never married but farmed with his dad in Agram Township, where he died in 1911.+++And Paul, my great grandfather, settled five miles away, in Buckman, Minnesota. He died there in 1900.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014

Number 42, Schamers...1896 and today

In the grand scheme of things, this post makes little difference.  It's just here to record our FINALLY weaving about ten different threads together into a coherent picture of the Binder houses in Schamers (Cimer, CR), Bohemia.  
Statue of St Joseph,
still displayed in the wall
of #42, Schamers, Bohemia

It's still hard to believe that we were in Schamers less than two weeks ago, on the street where they lived.  The family link between Heschs and Binders is one marriage many years ago (before 1850), but Heinz' involvement these last 3-4 years has been invaluable to our research....not to mention the accommodations and delightful guided tour he arranged while we were there.  

Besides  all that, the Binder houses in Schamers allowed us to go into the courtyard, to see up close how our families lived in Bohemia.  With a few steps between houses, we made the transition from a street in town to a farm pasture / cropland, and from 2014 back to 1869.
Almost 4 years ago, Heinz tried to tell me about his family home in Schamers, the market town our Heschs would have used for whatever they couldn't manufacture at home...but I didn't make the connection.  To me, the book Fr Josef Binder wrote about Schamers was good for general research, but didn't make much difference to Heschs.  Funny how things work out!

Then, because of Heinz' involvment, we heard from Su, in England, regarding her husband's grandfather, which led to his great great grandfather, a Binder relative who was the village Master Miller, in Niederschlagles at that time.  Su's added so much here, including a better understanding of what Heinz was trying to tell me.  This time, the genealogical brick wall took human form in me. Sigh. 

Su sent this photo from Heinz of three Binder brothers, (Franz, Ferdinand and Heinrich) with family members in about 1914, in front of the new house.  They were sitting exactly where Marion and Heinz stood one hundred years later.


So, what does this house, below left, have to do with all this?  It was the Karl Wanek house, at #40, Su's husband's family. Heinz said that Libor Rostik, the Neuhaus restaurant owner, is a Wanek relative too.  He's restoring it, making it into a lovely guest house in the country.

The houses along here were built and lived in by families named Schnell, Binder, Wanek and Hirsch, among others, up to May 1945, when all ethnic Austrian/Germans were forcibly removed from Czech lands.
Here's how the houses line up, how they've been for probably 300 years, built and torn down and replaced on the same spot.  That's what happened to the two houses above right.  The green house was built about 1842, and the tall ornate house was built by Binder siblings on the site of an earlier house, to insure they had a nice place to retire to, in the village they loved. 
It's is 51 by 33 feet, and was finished in 1896.  
Su provided a translation of the description Fr. Josef Binder wrote in his book  Heimatskunde Des Marktes Schamers (pub 1908)
which might have been written during his visits home...


"The new house No. 42"
           (This is the tall ornate-roofed building that's attached to the green-house-with-the-statue, ok?) 
"The living rooms of the old farmhouse was demolished in the spring of 1896 and the construction of a new home soon begun. This new building is 17 meters long and 10 meters wide. [51 x 33 feet] The plan for this was manufactured the architect Hnevkovsky in Prague III.  The three siblings living in Prague: Franz Binder, Joseph Binder, then deputy director, and Katherina Binder nee Eifinger, quickly contributed  all the expenses of the building the cost of 10,000 florins which merely insured the right to build"  
(and to live there later, probably). "The entire ground floor space is owned by the respective homeowners to administer the peasant economy/farm business(?) The entrance into this new house is made ​​from the court-yard. A large cellar and a laundry room was built. On the ground floor has two living rooms with the landlord, including a kitchen pantry.       Opposite the entrance of the stairs to the living space is on the 1st upper floor/story, where, five living rooms, including kitchen and food vaults.  This new house, the beginning of October, was completed in 1896, has been produced by the builder Johann Kocatz [of] Neuhaus.  140,000 bricks and 4 wagons of lime were used. The whole ceiling was wood from the forestry Klenau - purchased - that was there for five years [seasoned for five years].  
The wood for the roof structure was purchased from the parish priest in Kardasch-Řečic. The whole house is built throughout solid and dry".

PS: Su said: 
"We know from Josef's records of houses and their past owners that there has been a house called No 42 for a very long time:

Nr. 42. ("Schnell.") Christof Schnel 1580, Hans Schnell 1654, Kasper Charwat-Schnell 1666 bis/to 1716, Kollmann Charwat-Schnell seit/since 1716, Anton Schnell seit/since  1779.  Jetzt/now:  Ferdinand Binder".
Wow, huh?

A HUGE THANK YOU to Su and Heinz! ☺

Wednesday, February 26, 2014

We're back from Bohemia

Whew!  What an incredible trip.  My sister and I just got home from a trip to Europe (Rome, Austria, Czech Republic and Germany).  We visited Heinz and Melitta Binder in Heidenreichstein, Austria, and they took us on a whirlwind tour of the villages our Heschs came from 145 years ago.  Heinz is a dedicated family history buff and Melitta is tolerant.  We had a delightful time!

I expect you'd like to see some pics?
Schamers or Cimer.  It was the central market town
where our ancestors would have traded for things they couldn't make.


Marion and Heinz outside a Binder house on  Schamers' north side.
Check a following post about this...
The house was a farm house with a gate from the front leading into a
courtyard/protected enclosure formed by the barn & walls and the neighbors' barn & walls.
There was a gate in back as well, leading to the fields.
BTW, the pretty bunches of corn cobs are probably chicken feed.  In America, we used corn cribs, but here,
hanging is more efficient since the crop is smaller and there are fewer animals to feed.  I wondered
cuz its already February--practically spring--and the rafters looked full yet.  But maybe they purchase chicks
in April, then they have a nice supply of food all ready when they are.
(Thanks to Su for making sense of it ☺)
I was delighted to go into the courtyard of a couple of the houses there.
You could easily see how the space was used back then.
I'm pretty sure this was outside behind the second gate
of the farm house below.
Heinz standing in the narrow courtyard between houses.  That's the front gate beyond him.
See the green house, and warm-colored building behind
 him?--they're the Binder houses.
Below, the same house in two different photos: evidently, the house to the left was replaced by the larger fancy roof building that's there now.  (Su wrote and explained that the middle house, below, was removed and the two story building was built by three Binder sibs as a place they could retire.  It was finished in 1896). The B&W photos were found in Josef Binders' book on Schamers (published in 1908, in Prague).
Above is the  alte (old) house #42 and below right is the fancy new haus.  I believe the green house with the St Joseph statue is #40 (which only makes a diff to us when we're checking the church books).
The Binder house, #42, with a statue of St Joseph
still embedded in the wall., as it was
 around 1900, above.






The cool connection here has to do with a Wanek relative--when we got to Neuhaus (Jindrichuv Hradec), Heinz and Melitta took us to a restaurant (above) right across from the entrance to the castle, in Dobrovskeho Square.  The restaurant owners are Libor Rostik and his wife Iva Rostikova...who are also the restorers of the building
we're standing in front of, above  left. 

 A lovely couple, the food was savory and delicious at the restaurant,and the house in Schamers is lovely...check it out!

Here's the farmhouse at Schamers #40 if you can't translate that page ☺.  Here's a photo of the inside; it has vaulted ceilings, tile floors and a sweet outdoor area that would have been the farmyard once.  It's beautiful.

Thursday, September 20, 2012

COOL news from Austria

Last week, our gracious Austrian relative, Heinz Binder, sent a LINK TO A WEBSITE from Cimer, Czech Republic (Schamers, Bohemia), the nearest market town to our folks before they left Europe.  The current owners are renovating house #40 (Click the link and look for "Fotogalerie" on the left), which just happens to be a very significant house to our friend Su, in England.  She wrote back to him:
Dear Heinz,
It is very good to hear from you.  You have been busy!  Thank you for the link to the website about 40 Schamers. How amazing it is to see photographs of the inside of the house where Granddad was born, and to see down the garden to the river.  The photographs of the interior of the house remind me of Josef Binder's description of No. 42 Schamers where he and his brothers and sisters were born before it was rebuilt. In his book Heimatskunde Des Marktes Schamers… he wrote   "Dieses alte Bauernhaus enthielt eine große Bauernstube, wo noch eine Hängwleuchte war; neben dieser Bauernstube war das Stubengewölbe und hernach der Backofen angebracht, worauf die Kinder zu schlafen pflegten." And  "Hinter der Küche war dasKüchengewölbe und zwischen dem Küchengewölbe führte ein gang in den Stall".  I am reading it very slowly.  In the summer I work in my garden, but in the winter I work on Family History and winter is coming.
love Su
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Here's a much better translation than Googles', thanks to Su and Herman, the German Dictionary:


About the old house No 42.
This old house with Stübel*, adorned with the figure of Saint Joseph, is one of the peasant economy of the house no. 42nd The Auszugsstübel was rebuilt in 1877.
The owner of the entire property, Ferdinand Binder received from his brother Paul, privateer** in 

Vienna, the amount of 600 florins for rebuilding the Stübels.
This parlour, the space for the outgoing landlord (?) includes a room and a kitchen. 
 Under this parlour is a cellar.
The actual farm house was built 
in 1842. 
This old farmhouse contained a large parlor, where there 
was still a hanging lamp, beside the peasant's room the vault room, and afterwards, the oven was installed whereupon the children used to sleep. 
 Across from the entrance into the house, 
namely the court-yard was from a vestibule and then you came into the scullery where the food was 
cooked on open stoves in the warm season. 
 In winter the cooking of the food took place on a large tiled stove that heated the kitchen. 

 Behind the kitchen was the kitchen vault and 
between the kitchen vault a (walk) way led to the stable.

In this house lived and worked Anton Binder, born on 17 January 1815, died 
on 30 April 1869, and Josefa born Budil, born 7 February 1822, died on 1 January 1887. 

BTW, *Stübel means parlour - in this case it may mean a place for dressing flax - a Haarstubel or 'hair parlour'.
**Privateer - man of private means
The house with the niche containing the holy statue is still in
existence so the re-built house must be the larger one to the left.

Thanks, Su!

Isn't that just COOL?  Many THANKS to Heinz who keeps researching for us, and to Winter, so Su can come inside after an unusually hot English summer.

Das Leben ist schön ☺!

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Cousin Joe's book

("A History of the Market Town of Schamers, in Bohemia" by Joseph Binder)

Here's a delightful email from Su, recommending TWO books along the way ☺--

"Dear Marlys,
Cousin Joe himself
I've been leafing through what I will henceforth refer to as 'cousin Joe's Book'  (Heimatskunde Des Marktes Schamers in Böhmen, Herausgegeben von Josef Binder. Prag 1908 being something or a mouthful and Josef being Rob's first cousin 3x removed) and I think I can now see why it has been re-printed.  It is something of a tour-de-force and your adopting him as patron saint of Obsessed  Bohemian Genealogist is even more appropriate than perhaps you realised at the time.
  Most relevant (so far!) to us, and possibly you too, is the whole chapter he has written on the local Schamers dialect.  So, not only have we been struggling with the difficulty of doing research in a language-no, two languages we don't speak, there is the added complication that the German would be Austrian German and now I find it is a separate local dialect. Let's all give ourselves a self-congratulatory pat on the back for getting so far!   I know you don't really have family in Schamers except for the marriage of a distant cousin but it would be very surprising if this dialect was limited to just the parish of Schamers and your ancestral villages are close enough for it to be relevant. 


Cousin Joe has written what amounts to a paper on the subject of the dialect.  He is, I think, writing in Standard German, and what I have translated of the chapter so far suggests it to be a thoughtful and well-considered study.  The gem of it all (apart from a good index)  is vocabulary of local words.  I have already solved one mystery word problem and it looks so useful that I'm going to scan it and send you the images. The original volume, which was scanned for the publication, is held in Harvard Library.  My edition is a Nabu Public Domain Reprint ISBN 9 781271 609727. The public domain is 'the United States of America, and possibly other countries'.  There is a note in the front of the reprint  to say that "You may freely copy and distribute this work as no entity (individual or corporate) has copyright on the body of the work" so you can do what you like with it - how refreshing! There are 8 pages (p408-415 inclusive).  I think it's going to take me years to read the whole thing (464 pages long) but, by golly, I'm going to have a good try.


I don't suppose we shall be reading many medieval documents unless Heinz unearths a few more at the Abbey** but this website is a really useful, beautiful, and well thought-out guide to medieval handwriting".
 [**Heinz sent Su the above pics of a Binder document from 1356.  We haven't deciphered it yet, but the website should help immensely. Be sure to enlarge the pictures--M].

"Have you or Larry used this one? It gives you a guide on how to use the current Czech cadastral register website- what I'd call the Land Registry.  You can find the name of the current owner of any house you are interested in and very detailed maps as well.   I don't think it is complete yet.  I tried Schamers Nos 40 & 42 and found them OK but had no luck with Niederschlagles/Dolni Lhota because there are several Dolni Lhotas and the one in the correct district didn't appear.  The Czechs are amazingly free with their information.  To find the same sort of information here I'd have to fill out forms in triplicate, pay a fee and explain what I wanted the information for at the very least and it would be 'in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign outside the door saying "Beware of the Leopard."'* and that's after the Freedom of Information Act!
love Su

 *The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams - possibly the funniest Sci-Fi book ever written in a genre not generally known for humour (or good writing for that matter)". 


BTW, I know the brown thing on the parchment document looks like a desiccated  mouse, but Heinz says it's not...☺

Thursday, January 26, 2012

Josef Hesch, born in 1869

Earlier this week, Larry mentioned that the indexers at SRA Trebon had added a couple of earlier Heschs to the list there.  Evidently, they're working backwards thru the years because the most recent records are easiest to read, and no doubt the transcribers are learning as they go back, too.  There's a definite thrill in figuring all this out for us as well.
This is one of the children added, a baby they named Josef.  We could read most of the information here, but both Larry and I were stumped by a few words, so I emailed our Austrian cousin, Heinz Binder, and here's what he sent back:
(DANKE, HEINZ ☺!)
Ok, obviously this first row is the left-hand side of the record book page, giving the date of birth and the date of baptism--27 February 1869, then the priest, Josef Melena.  The baby's name, Josef, is written big enough for God to see.  Josef was male, Catholic and legitimate.  His parents lived at Niedermuhl #11.  The midwife was Maria Hesch from Niedermuhl, tho she wasn't certified ("untested").
The second row is the right-hand side of the same record book page, explaining who Josef's parents and grandparents were.  The first block gives us the baby's father: "Wenzel Hesch, shoemaker, of Niedermuhl #11, the legitimate son of Johann Hesch, mason, of Oberschlagles # and his wife Maria, daughter of Franz Binder, tailor from Radeinles".
(Cool, huh?)
The second block tells about Josef's mother: "Agnes, legitimate daughter of Josef Matauscher, shoemaker, of Oberschlagles #29 and his wife Maria, legitimate daughter of Wenzl Merth, Hausler, of Niedermuhl".  (Google translates Hausler as "Cottager" and Herman adds "one who lives in a house" while  Heinz says a Hausler is a home owner.  You decide ☺).
On the far right are Josefs godparents, "Bartholomaus Merth of Niedermuhl and his wife Barbara". 


 (BTW, the word we had a brain fart about was "Radeinlas"--we've both seen it before but usually it's preceded by "Klein".  Oh, well!)

Something else I've wanted to mention is the interesting way they wrote an additional date on these records--see up there, in the column where the baby's name is?  It says:
              18 9/4 84
..which is September 4th, 1884, see?  The date was added to the record almost 15 years later--it might have been Josef's solemn communion, or confirmation, or the date he and his family left Bohemia for good.  The letters before the date look like TG to me, but what I think doesn't count...☺  The priest knew, and he assumed others would know.  I'm pointing it out cuz dates are written this way throughout the books.
However, they're sometimes preceded by a + signifying a death.  Evidently, Josef lived thru this event.

Wednesday, January 4, 2012

Heinz & Melitta

Because of the differences in language and translating, sometimes Heinz sends me something and I don't understand.  However, this photo just has to be our cousin Heinz and his lovely wife Melitta on their wedding day in 1961.  (I know this for sure cuz the photo was labeled ☺).  
                          And that made 2011 their 50th wedding anniversary!

  

Here's the mayor of Heidenreichstein who dropped in to say "Wow!"

And here's Melitta holding 50 red carnations--to which we American relatives say
 "WOW! and (belated) Congratulations!".


 BTW, I'm especially grateful to Melitta for going along with Heinz to all those odd little villages we relatives are so eager to see.  You're a good sport, Melitta ☺  Thank you both!

Wednesday, November 9, 2011

An amazing gift

This email arrived over the weekend, and tickled us to our toes ☺  YAY!!
Dear Marlys Hesch,
You don't know me and we are unlikely ever to meet as I live across the pond in England but I owe you an enormous debt of gratitude for your wonderful Hesch History Website, which has given me hours of pleasure and a whole new insight into a branch of my family that I thought forever closed to me. It is even possible that we are very distantly related.

I will explain but it will take a little time so get yourself a cup of coffee, put your feet up and read on as I have a story to tell.

Thirty-five years ago this year I married my husband, taking a new surname, Wanek, that is a very unusual name in England.  My own family had always been very interested in its origins and naturally I was keen to know more about my new family.   I learned that my husband's grandfather (already dead) had originally come from Bohemia, later part of Czechoslovakia, but that he 'could not go back', that he had been interned on the Isle of Man as an 'enemy alien' in the First World War, that he'd worked variously as a waiter in the big hotels in London, on the trans-Atlantic liners and on the Island of Guernsey.   I was puzzled that apart from his Mum and Dad and sibling my husband seemed to have no family at all.  This outwardly very English family had a taste for Apple Strudel, Potato Noodles, Sauerkraut, served with Sunday roast dinner as well Frankfurters and a particularly thick Chicken soup, strongly enriched with that most un-English of flavours; garlic!  No one seemed interested in their origins and direct enquiries were regarded with bafflement and suspicion and were discouraged.  Books on researching your ancestors always exhort you to talk to your relatives and I was bursting with curiosity but it's bad manners to press too hard and not a good idea to upset your in-laws. The reason for the lack of relations seemed to be because my Mum-in-law had been orphaned at the tender age of three and there had been a serious falling-out between my Dad-in-law and his two brothers, the reasons for which are irretrievably buried in the past.  So I just listened and mentally noted the little snippets of information that gradually leaked out but could do no more until their deaths, whereupon I was able to look among the family papers.  The one great thing about family history is that you can't upset the dead!

Among the papers I found something worth more to me than a whole wheelbarrow full of garnet pectoral crosses:  Granddad's baptismal certificate.  Compared with English equivalents they are a treasure trove of family information.  Curiously, it was printed in Latin and German and filled out in German.  I was puzzled about this but grateful it wasn't Czech, as although I can't speak German the language is not totally unfamiliar to me.   The biggest stumbling block was the handwriting and that I didn't understand how the addresses worked.  So I did my best with the transcription and the translation and continued the hunt finding letters and photos and oddments but the more I found the more puzzled I became. Why, if he was Czech, were all the letters and postcards written in German?  I had assumed that Granddad could not return to the place of his birth because in the time that he was alive Czechoslovakia was behind the Iron Curtain, yet after his death Gran did go back to see relatives who did not seem to be in Czechoslovakia yet no one seemed very sure exactly where they lived or what language they spoke.  She is known to have gone to Vienna (that may just have been holiday excursions) and there is a photograph album of her with people who have very obvious family features and are in places around Mannheim in Germany but, frustratingly, there are no names noted. I began to suspect that things were not quite as straight-forward as they had initially seemed.

Time passed, the Internet arrived and I tried a bit of on-line research in the English records, gradually pieced together his life.  He was baptized as Ludwig Waněk.  He seems to have gone to Prague as a teenager and studied at a school for waiters, and then about 100 years ago he came to England and worked at the Waldorf Hotel in London.  Next, using the forename Ludi, he married an English girl and had a son (actually it was the other way round but we'll brush over that - it was by no means uncommon).  On the out-break of war in August 1914, along with hundreds of Germans, Hungarians, Russians and others, many of whom had been here for years, he would have been instantly dismissed from his job as a waiter. Bohemians were citizens of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and therefore the enemy. Many of these people lived in the hotels in which they were employed and so lost their homes as well. The weather was warm and they lived in the London parks but autumn progressed and it was one of the wettest winters for years so they suffered badly.  A Relief Committee was organized by the Quakers to help them and soup kitchens were set up.  Shortly after that all enemy aliens were rounded up and shipped off to the Isle of Man, a beautiful but cold and windswept island between England and Ireland, where several camps were set up, one holding as many as 20,000 people by the end of the war. It was a hard life but presumably not quite as bad as having to serve in the trenches.

Granddad left a wife with a little son, a baby girl and another child on the way. This is hardly equivalent to the suffering of the Jews in Europe but what a worrying time it must have been. Gran did the only thing she could and went home to her Mum and Dad in Swindon in the west of England.  The baby girl died and a new son was born and there she stayed, presumably until Granddad was released. She was still there in February 1919 when her Dad died. It is possible, but unproven, that she was able to get work to help support her children, in the huge railway manufactory that was turned over to war work, although if she did she would have been deprived of the pitifully small living allowance granted to her by the local Poor Law Guardians. That's a name to send shivers down the spine of anyone who was alive then and they were not usually disposed to be very generous to anyone, let alone a woman with a foreign name and an enemy husband. 

Alas, things did not really improve at the end of the war as enemy aliens were deported and not allowed to return for 5 years even if they had British wives and children.  At that time, when a woman married a foreigner she lost her British citizenship (but didn't necessarily acquire his nationality) unless she made a declaration to the contrary but this wasn't widely publicised. There were questions in Parliament about it, requesting that the police be obliged to disclose the information but the proposal was rejected. Granddad managed to obtain employment in a highly reputable hotel on the island of Guernsey. Guernsey is one of the Channel Islands that lie close to the French coast; Queen Elisabeth II is their queen too, but they have their own legislature and are largely independent of the UK. The climate is relatively warm and pleasant and a lot better than the Isle of Man.  He was now known as Louis - which doesn't sound German. As an alien he was not allowed to change his surname so that the authorities could keep track of his movements.  I should explain that in UK English Wanek is perilously close to a rather rude word - my children suffered a lot of teasing about it at school - but we've always stuck with it, although one of Granddad's sons made a small change to the spelling in later life. I think they were very happy in Guernsey; a third son was born there and Granddad was a very highly valued employee but he was restless.  They went to Prague for a time; the youngest boy settled in well but the oldest son, then about 14, had already left school and couldn't cope with the language.  They returned to England where Gran opened a boarding-house on the south coast of England close to the port of Southampton and for most of the rest of the 1930s Granddad worked as a steward on the liners doing the run to New York and back. Later, presumably when he'd attained some sort of right to remain, took a job at the Savoy Hotel on The Strand and the family moved to London.

In the Second World War, as a Czech, he was from an oppressed nation and no longer considered an enemy so was allowed to continue working, which he did, all through the Blitz.  All three of Granddad's sons served in the Second World War. The oldest, already married by the outbreak of WWII, had a similar experience to your Dad -he was an artillery man in the North African campaign then landed at Salerno and fought his way doggedly up the length of Italy including the assault on Monte Cassino and just like him said nothing about it. He had a very tough time and returned physically whole but mentally scarred, a withdrawn and silent man who suffered from depression at a time when there was no effective medication.  The second son went into the RAF and was a rear gunner in a Lancaster bomber. He was in terrible crash where the aircraft broke in two and the half with the bomb load exploded and killed the rest of the crew. He survived but with head injuries that left him a little unstable. The youngest served in Greece in the dying days of the war and probably had a rather better time than his brothers.  After all that was it any wonder that they were thankful to return to Blighty more or less whole and live a quiet safe life, becoming as English as possible and put all the tumult behind them?  In August 1946, only a month before the birth of his grandson (my husband) Granddad became a naturalised citizen of the UK.  Eventually Gran and Granddad bought a small piece of land about 30 miles west of London and had a little bungalow build among the pines and silver birches that must have reminded him somewhat of his long lost birth place.  He died after falling off his bike and was buried in a quiet and pretty English country churchyard.  This story is so quickly told but it has taken me 35 years to get this much information together.

Of his Czech family I learned nothing and I left the problem for some years, then earlier this year decided it was time to have another search.  I put Granddad's mother's maiden name and the village where he was born into the search box and up popped your website.  The names?  Binder and Schamers! 

I immediately had fellow feeling for you as someone who 'thought her family wasn't proud of their origins'. All your carefully added links and information have been so valuable and I have learned so much.  Czech/Bohemian immigrants into this country have, until very recently, been so few in number that there is no cultural history to absorb in the same way that there is in the US.  With the information from your site added to what I have gleaned I am now as certain as I can be that Granddad's family were ethnic Germans/Austrians who had lived in the Czech lands and were forcibly evicted from their land and home in the ethnic cleansing at the end of World War 2.  I knew nothing of this and was shocked both at my ignorance and that such a dreadful thing had been allowed to happen.  It also explains why, in a letter to Gran in hospital, in March 1946 he complains about the paperwork he has to do to get his naturalization papers and says that 'since Joseph and the old home in Schamers seem vamoosed I shall probably end my days somewhere in England after all. '  He would have been deprived of his Czech citizenship and so 'could not go back' and his family - Joseph -possibly a brother, would have been sent to Germany in the past year where they would have had a very hard time. Food and fuel were very short in Germany for some years after the end of the war and despite speaking the same language they would have had to live among people they had probably regarded as enemies.  I hope they had a better life than they would have done under the Russians and I assume, and indeed hope, that his Dad and Mum were dead by then as it would be bad for anyone but a tragedy for the elderly to be torn from their roots.

And so it is because of you that I am up till the wee small hours poring over unreadable handwriting in the Czech archives until my eyes feel like red-hot organ stops.  It is because of you that I that I nearly cried when I first saw the picture of the church where Granddad was baptised and that I know a lot more about European history. Unfortunately, since Granddad was born in 1892, the on-line records for Schamers don't cover that time period so I haven't been able to find out the names of any siblings and there don't seem to be Waneks in Schamers although there are Binders by the dozen.  I am hot on the tracks of his older relatives although I may well be a very old woman by the time I've learned how to read them.  The priest had a steel nibbed pen and used it to make the most impressive and unreadable flourishes in his handwriting.  I went further back in time and to my relief found a change of incumbent but he used a goose quill - or was it a piece of burnt stick- and the writing is just as unreadable but in a different way and I'm going to have to learn to read all over again.  Argghh! I take my hat off and bow low to your friend Larry who seems to pass with ease through these archives!  It is because of you that I now understand how Czech addresses work and found that No 40, where Granddad was born, was home to his mother's family for at least 50 years before that and his father Karl was still living there in 1912.  I've used Google earth to find the house but I haven't yet worked how to access those amazing Plat maps of the village -I'm not very computer savvy.  There is more. I noticed on that wonderful baptismal certificate that Granddad's grandfather, one Mathias Waněk, lived at Niederschlagels (now Dolní Lhota)  No 1 and that he was a Master Miller.  I plugged this into Google Earth and it pinpointed a mill on the River Nezarka.   Niederschlagels (Dolní Lhota) is only about 3 miles from Oberschlagles (Horní Lhota) and on the same river.  What would our ancestors think that we are able to 'fly' above their homelands, read (or at least attempt to read!) books that recorded the important happenings in their lives and converse across the world, all from the comfort of our own homes?

So, Marlys Hesch, if you are still awake, I send you my heartfelt thanks and good wishes and say keep up the good work as there may be other people out there in the wide world who have benefited from your generosity.

Yours sincerely
Su (short for Susan) Wanek.

Su mentioned the Schamers church books don't include 1892--YET.  They're projected to be online in 2012.  Not to worry, we family historians absolutely ADORE waiting.  Anticipation makes the payoff even better, and bestows points toward sainthood...lol

THANK YOU, SU!!  

Tuesday, June 15, 2010

Hesch History, from Heinz Binder

It's remarkable that Heinz is doing HESCH research in Austria for us!  He sends the text in German and I translate it using Google, so sometimes it's difficult to understand (for instance, Oberschlagles translates as Otten Flip and Schamers translates as shame), so I've edited to make it more understandable....I hope!  To see the original German in Part II, hover on the words with your cursor, ok?
HESCH RESEARCH Part I
 
The big (ancestral) farm HESCH, the Farmhaus, was in Ottenschlag No. 9 ( now OTIN near Neuhaus ).
The family lived there from 1600 ( Archive record  from 1654 ) until after 1850. 
First sponsoring from (Countess) Catherine of NEUHAUS. 

Research and Develoment historical: all HESCH to hail from a place of Ottenschlag in Bohemia  near Austria border. (The farm supplied meat and produce to the) castle kitchen, was where the HESCH farm in Ottenschlag delivered.


 The k.k. Officer Major Franz HESCH from Prague* 1814 + 10/12/1880. Probable descendent of Zillertal jeweler/dealer Simon HESCH from Neuhaus / Prague. 

 
Heidenreichstein, 1 June 2010 (Heinz BINDER)
HESCH RESEARCH Part II
  
The (first) HESCH generation  about 1600 family farm in Ottenschlag, characterized by the Hussite wars and the wars of religion did, loudly Geburtsmatrik, trace the provost in Neuhaus, since the year 1634 in an interrupted series of generations of their home village, the inherited perfectly lawful. From where they lived mainly by agriculture and cattle breeding and supplying the castle kitchen in Neuhaus. 

Ottenschlag in the Kingdom of Bohemia. That was part of the western half of the Austrian Monarchy, was the unwritten law of succession, which the Court to the eldest son inherited  undivided, was to preserve the unity of the family farm. (In contrast to the BINDER in the Zillertal, where the youngest son of the yard got the parents to care for a long time). Therefore, influx of artisans and the eldest sons of farmers and others also TIROL.   Changes in 1645-1900 are due at least in marrying, if here and there the Hoferbe is excreted. It is difficult for the survival HESCH family farm, the darkness of successions, to clear completely.   At that time the area had remained south of  Schamers and Niedermühle in Austria.  Until 1900 many HESCH and other emigration to America took place, increased the influx of Czechs. 
Neuhaus and environment are demonstrated in late HESCH: 
HESCH Theresa + 03/10/1767 and  Josephus, + 17/04/1772 

Johann, + 11.29.1800, Josefa, +  05.03.1873,  
(I believe Heinz  found these other Heschs who were born there AFTER  our ancestors left for America):
Maria + 18.6.1819,  Simon, * in Ottenschlag, + 03.02.1831, 
(their children?) Ignaz + 08.02.1860,  Martin + 08.22.1859, Wenzel + 6/10/1874,  Ignaz +11.5.1877, Johann + 9/2/1877, 6/15/1879 + Mary, Agnes + 19.08.1879, + 12.27.1890 Johann, Johann +1893, Karl + 19.3. 1895, Mary Bartholomew 1907 + 28.12 + 30/07/1908 (both in Oberschlagles No. 23), Matthew + 27/03/1915 and Frantisek, born HESCH, + 11.20.1927, as the HESH, (Name Czechicized) in Ottenschlag No. 7 . He is (thought to be the) last from the HESCH dynasty.  Other descendants could not be ascertained. 
( Cool!  HESH is the Czech version of HESCH ).
 Now is the former Heschgrund a factory area. The place name is now Otin. Adjacent to Neuhaus, now Jindrichuv Hradec. The archive Czernin many information resources are available, however, is the archive (with the parish registers of the Provost Neuhaus) is not digitally accessible. On the already in the HESCH Research Part I, cited registration: Johann HESCH, born on 12 May 1820, in Ottenschlag No.9 than unmarried son of the Catholic HESCH Anna, daughter of Simon HESCH, farmer in Ottenschlag be noticed.
Heidenreichstein, 15 June 2010 (Heinz BINDER)

More THANKS to Heinz!